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Flopping Two Pair

Postby IAMINARUTT » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:19 pm

I probably mis-played this hand from the start. I was in small blind with 76s and Limped into an unopened pot. That was probably my first mistake. I had been splashing around in the previous few hands and I did not have much interest in playing this hand out of position. UTG limps in so I call from Small Blind to see a flop 3 handed. Perhaps I should have mucked it straight away.

UTG ($9.70)
MP ($6.30)
Button ($4.65)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($13.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7Image, 6Image
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) AImage, 7Image, 6Image (3 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.70) 4Image (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($2.70) KImage (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Total pot: $14.70 [b]

Looking back, calling the river bet was stupid. It was quite concievable that someone had Aces Up or a set.

I think the call on the turn was okay. It was only 50cents and I might have hit a boat. But the river call was a mistake.

Thoughts?
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Re: Flopping Two Pair

Postby hockeyguy » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:17 pm

IAMINARUTT wrote:I probably mis-played this hand from the start. I was in small blind with 76s and Limped into an unopened pot. That was probably my first mistake. I had been splashing around in the previous few hands and I did not have much interest in playing this hand out of position. UTG limps in so I call from Small Blind to see a flop 3 handed. Perhaps I should have mucked it straight away.

UTG ($9.70)
MP ($6.30)
Button ($4.65)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($13.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7Image, 6Image
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) AImage, 7Image, 6Image (3 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.70) 4Image (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($2.70) KImage (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Total pot: $14.70 [b]

Looking back, calling the river bet was stupid. It was quite concievable that someone had Aces Up or a set.

I think the call on the turn was okay. It was only 50cents and I might have hit a boat. But the river call was a mistake.

Thoughts?


in general i fold here preflop, i might occasionally raise to take control and get bb out. there are times i might complete if bb AND UTG are known calling stations AND both are full stacked or more, but the raise and call are the exceptions.

that being said once you are in and have two pair i would bet strong in case someone has an A
so on flop i bet the pot, same as if i was trying to steal, but build the pot you are typically way ahead.
The turn completes him if he has a4,44, or 58, or else you are ahead. there is something to be said for
not getting busted in a limped pot, but i think you are ahead most times here.
he might have 5x to pick up a draw, 2 clubs with a pair, just an Ace w/ decent kicker etc
i would not call the turn min raise, i would reraise to $2.00-$2.50(pot was 0.70+.050+1.00=2.20)
if he shoves then you will have to reevaluate, but dont always be afraid of a bad thing before it happens.
Many times the bad thing never happens. I am typically not concerned w/ the river K here.
will you run into ak here, yes, but mostly not. stats program is very helpful here. if he is very passive preflop
like 4% or less he might be an AK limper. if he did then i make a note and move on.

but i would call the river in a heart beat even though i expect to lose sometimes, i think you showed weakness on turn
so many players overplay pair of aces on river, and your 2 pair are good-
notice also when you get passive you end up in unclear situations, had you been more aggressive on turn i think the situation would be more defined.

i assume villian have had ak?

hg
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Re: Flopping Two Pair

Postby Mattutaylor » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:20 am

I don't see all that much wrong with making up the small blind here and I like you flop lead.

Your raise/call on the turn is ok, 4 betting here is ok too. I mean he could have a better two pair, the 5 may have made a straight (given that its 10nl, UTG could have anything), or he may even have a set but you still have room to see where you are.

But when you flat the turn c/r I see no value in leading out on the river because if he has a strong hand you're only gonna get raised again. I cant decide whether your betting your 2 pair for value on the river, if your putting out a blocking bet, or if you're turning your hand into a bluff :S
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Re: Flopping Two Pair

Postby IAMINARUTT » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:37 am

Hi Guys,

Thanks for taking the time to give me some feedback. I find it extremely valuable. I will take some time to review it and integrate it into my game.

For the record he turned over 85 (both hearts) and the 4 on the turn had given him a straight.

Thanks
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Re: Flopping Two Pair

Postby Mattutaylor » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:51 am

IAMINARUTT wrote:Hi Guys,


For the record he turned over 85 (both hearts) and the 4 on the turn had given him a straight.

Thanks


I read hands goooooooooooot :)
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Re: Flopping Two Pair

Postby hockeyguy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:24 am

notice if you reraise turn for 2.50 or so, he will likely shove and you have a chance to get off the hand
cheaper than call call. since he could have anything since he was in bb and got free flop. when in non raised pot i dont like to get it all in w/ less than top 2 pair since ranges are literally any two for micro games and that is true for the blinds for any limit when pot unraised

there isnt much tricky play at the micros
(there is a lot of repeated bad play that is non standard, but that is different than a good tricky play) so notes are very valueable since they will do same silly thing again and again. so i found that aggression typically leads to clarity most of the time and made most decisions pretty straight forward

hope this makes sense gl hg
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