I've come to the conclusion that I would lose less if I just fold KK pre-flop. I've never seen so many kings as I have in the last three days and can't recall winning a single hand where I saw the flop with KK in the last three days.

Heed my warning! Kings are the devil.

Sorry about the whining, had to let off some steam.

been there, felt the frustration

may i wish you and all OP members Ace free flops for all your KK over the holidays and into the new year

hg

Hear! Hear! It is amazing how many flops appear to have an ace in them. I have finally learned to let them go on occasion!

fyi

if you go check your hm or pt you will find an Ace only flops 1/6 times over any decent size sample
you just remember the 1/6 because it is so painful

merry xmas

hg

Believe it or not, it's not Aces that are beating me (except the one time that I had KK vs his AA). Most of the time I'm getting all-in pre-flop or on the flop vs VERY loose players and am getting sucked out with two pair on the river or they are hitting runner-runner to make their straight. I know it's varience, but it's still irritating.

I'm proud of myself for not tilting. That would be my MO in the past. That's something I'm still working on. Also I need to do like Tim says and DON'T BE RESULTS ORIENTED.

maybe you can be this other guy in the future

i had his KK by the short hairs, but santa sent a bad elf to crush me

***** Hand History for Game 2064751562 ***** (Bodog)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, December 22, 08:34:02 ET 2010
Table Nysdial (max 6) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: ariels22 ( $98.50 USD )
Seat 2: Kid_Poker ( $37.50 USD )
Seat 3: bn7209 ( $178.08 USD )
Seat 4: BingoBillyGoat ( $98.95 USD )
Seat 5: hockeyguy99 ( $94.52 USD )
Seat 6: Teasin Brown ( $100.00 USD )
hockeyguy99 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Teasin Brown posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy99 [ Qd 8d ]
ariels22 folds
Kid_Poker folds
bn7209 folds
BingoBillyGoat raises [$3.00 USD]
the guy is 19/9/0 preflop
post flop he is 1.0/0.5/0.5 aka Mr fit or fold so i expect him to chk behind to give me free cards or steal pot on turn blank a lot. Also he will play made hand face up so i will know where i am at
hockeyguy99 calls [$2.50 USD]
Teasin Brown folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 7d, Qs ] bingo, no point in donking he will fold Air and he didnt raze anything that has a draw so safe to check and see what he does
hockeyguy99 checks
BingoBillyGoat bets [$5.00 USD] AWESOME HE HAS A HAND
hockeyguy99 raises [$12.00 USD] GIDDYUP
BingoBillyGoat raises [$38.00 USD]
hockeyguy99 raises [$79.52 USD] RINSE AND REPEAT
BingoBillyGoat calls [$48.52 USD]
BingoBillyGoat shows [Kh, Kc ] HELLO COWBOYS
hockeyguy99 shows [Qd, 8d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ] CAN I DODGE 555 OR 777 OR KK?
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ] SADLY Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
hockeyguy99 shows [Qd, 8d ]
BingoBillyGoat shows [Kh, Kc ]
BingoBillyGoat wins $187.04 USD from main pot

OH WELL

hang in there you cant lose em all

hg

I know the feeling... but keep at it and you'll show a super profit with Kings in the long run

I used to feel the same way. I really thought I was losing money with KK and even AA. Seemed like no matter which I had the other guy would nail it on the flop.

Later to comfirm my belief that I was losing with these hands and very unlucky I went into holdem manager and did some minor hand filtering and found that the reality in the big picture is that I am way ahead with these hands. I guess we only really remember the ones that hurt most.

a timely reminder as the last 8 times i had KK over the weekend i got 5 no actions and 3 AA.
not a good or fun result short term, but i know i am ahead thousands of dollars in the long run w KK

hg

I know and understand your pain and thanks for getting back to me when I was down