jakeys wrote:Hi, I'm GOTTHEJAKEYSSONBTCHES.

Googled my name, saw this, wondered if you might want to chat/sweat/go over hands.

Currently playing nl50 6 max, still on merge.

Couldn't find a way to PM you, but feel free to get in touch - tankgirlpkr @ skype

glgl

id be interested
give me a shout on the account tab thingy and we can try to work out schedule

rob

Howdy Again Everyone
8/23 results
Monday night -
Started $424.35 +$0.00 rakeback=$424.35


WHAT AN AMAZING SESSION- AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY

Alrighty, I spoke too soon in previous post. I have never had a session like this before in any game at any level, quite honestly I am a bit numb. I promised in a previous post not to post anymore bad beats, but i must confess I am tempted to break that promise. What i do know is that i dropped over 9 buyins in 1 session. You are probably asking yourself “How could i do that?” Well, it kind of went like this. I was at 3 very good tables in very good seats w/ 2 or 3 loose fish to my right and 1 or 2 taggy/nitty players to my left. Perfect, except for 1 thing. The cards simply didn’t cooperate.

At the start of the session I rarely hit a flop and saw way too many 89Q 2 tone type flops vs 2 or more 50%+ vpip types when i had AK type hand. Also several lags check raised me out of some pots when i Cbet air. I lost coin flip after coin flip to short stacks, I flopped middle set and lost to top set, I had a couple chasers catch their draw. OK fine, I am down a few buyins, these things happen. I am playing fine in great seats vs bad players, no reason to leave 3 juicy tables. I flop another set, only to find opponent flopped higher set. I raise w/ QQ, flop comes 744, we get it in on the flop and lose to KK. I raise w/ TT and get it in on 442 flop and lose to JJ. It must be time for me to flop second best set for 3rd time in 1 session, yup. Ok, now i am down about 6 or 7 buyins and I am starting to question the universe. But i am still in great seats vs bad players so i take a deep breath and regroup and play on just trying to get part of it back. SAdly, It seems like it is time for me to have a top pair and straight draw vs a serial donk shover who pushes it in, I call only to see he has the same hand top pair w/ straight draw and a flush draw that comes on the turn. I follow this up w/ AK top two pair calling a turn stack shove by a JT bottom pair w/ a gut draw, naturally he hit his gutter on the river- Another stack lost. At this point i decide to turn off my blinds, but before I can slink off and slit my wrists I manage to flop top pair again, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, déjà vu all over again, i checkraise flop and get called, the opponent shoves on the turn again, i call and watch him suckout again - Another stack lost. At this point I am completely numb and decide to see where my results are at, i know it aint good, but didn’t really have a clue how bad it had gotten. As it turned out i went from $420+ to about $198. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is what it looked like

631 hands
$-232.39, over 9 buyins
WR= -147 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 4.5 hrs

After a day or so i decided to Look a bit deeper to see WTF happened. Using HM i played 21 hands where i won or lost over 25 big blinds. I lost 15 of the hands and won 6 hands for a net of -$173.50, my expected loss was -$19.82 (which is nothing to be excited about), but i was still getting it in many times when i was ahead, but I was over 6 buyins in the hole on bad luck in the big pots. Obviously there is nothing i can do if i get it in good and the opponents keep sucking out. This type of run typically results in poor results in the bankroll, but unfortunately if i imagine for a moment statistical justice prevailed here. I would still been over 3 buyins in the hole for the session. How did that happen? That would be the 3 times i flopped a set only to wake up and find opponent had a bigger set ( when was the last time you saw a set over set, when was the last time you were in a hand when it as set over set on the flop, but 3 times in same session all on the losing end?). Since we at OP don’t sloplay sets, in went the $$$$$$ when i only had 1 out, there go 3 more stacks when i had about 3% equity, so these hands don’t barely show up in the above mentioned EV results, when i get it in w/ 1 out, i expect to lose. The same thing applies when i got in with the smaller over pairs (which happened 3 times when i had smaller over pair and once when i had the bigger overpair) the smaller overpair is about a 11/1 underdog after the flop. So there went another 5 buyins on coolers (set over set is very rare, and big over pair vs big over pair are pretty rare as well) which should and do even out in the long run, sadly Monday night was not the long run. Sometimes “bad luck” is opponents hitting all their draws, or you never hitting a flop or a draw, sometimes it is being on the wrong end of a cooler or two, but when you add them all in one session it felt like an unscheduled visit to an angry proctologist.

Obviously after a session like this it is hard to make an argument that i played great poker with a straight face, and clarity of thought is also a challenge. So after a couple days to make peace with the events (which is still a bit of a work in progress). I have gone back to look at the session and try to more clearly analyze the carnage.

After reviewing the session on HM there were certainly some hands i would play differently (as there always are) but these were typically small pots w/ 1 or 2 meddium 15 bb type pots. However none of them had much effect on my overall session results. Upon review i have concluded that the combination of being dealt a bunch of coolers where i had virtually no equity, and too many big pots where donkeys sucked out makes it look and feel like i don’t know how to play. However, I think I can make a case i played break even or slightly +EV poker and just got caught in a perfect storm of statistical variation against me. I did see a post this morning from Morten in the variance section on the forum where he took 3 stack size beats in quick succession which made me feel a bit better knowing it doesn’t just happen to me.


Alrighty then, now that i have snivelled and whined lets look at some useful hand histories

A rare but interesting situation, but it shows another way bet size matters

***** Hand History for Game 27244107225 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 23, 10:22:24 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (27244107) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: terissa19 ( $0.00 USD )
Seat 2: urbancamper ( $25.38 USD )
Seat 3: Badidy ( $47.77 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $29.88 USD )
Seat 5: Mikolka ( $8.24 USD )
Seat 6: ThatGuy222 ( $36.18 USD )
hockeyguy321 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Mikolka posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Kc Js ]
ThatGuy222 folds
urbancamper folds
Badidy raises [$0.85 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.75 USD]
Mikolka calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Jh, 3d ]
hockeyguy321 bets [$2.00 USD] nothing unusual here i think i am best and don’t want an overcard to hit
Mikolka calls [$2.00 USD]
Badidy calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ] i didn’t expect 2 callers on such a dry flop, but i am sure i am best as better would have raised in 3 way pot
hockeyguy321 bets [$4.28 USD] HORRIBLE BET SIZE HERE, i should either bet enough to put the short stack all in. Putting short guy allin in just straight value move. Or bet just less than ½ the amount the short stack has left. In this hand i felt positive the short stack guy was calling any bet or shoving if i bet less than his stack. The reason less than half his stack is better bet size here is because when he shoves to raise me his raise is more than 2x my bet, so if the guy behind calls it doesn’t close the betting and i can reshove which either forces the button to abandon his money in the pot or call another large bet to chase or with a worse hand or draw when he is large – EV.. As soon as i hit bet i started cussing as i realized what i had done.

Mikolka raises [$5.39 USD] as expected he pushes
Badidy calls [$5.39 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$1.11 USD] here is where i lost value regardless of actual outcome. I cant reraise because his bet was not at least 2x mine, i am only allowed to call
if i could have shoved here he didn’t have enough outs to make a + EV call, so he would have to decide to abandon his call $$$$ or chase as a large - EV
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
hockeyguy321 bets [$12.36 USD] didn’t expect 2 to be help
Badidy raises [$39.53 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$9.28 USD] yeah he could have 22 33 or AJ, but im not a believer and pot odds 5+/1 to big to fold
Badidy shows [4c, Ac ]
hockeyguy321 shows [Kc, Js ]
Mikolka shows [Qd, Jd ]
Badidy wins $17.89 USD
Badidy wins $42.00 USD from main pot
Badidy wins $24.00 USD from main pot


How stats help keep me out of trouble

***** Hand History for Game 27244107260 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 23, 10:49:18 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (27244107) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Dreamstation ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 2: urbancamper ( $30.73 USD )
Seat 3: Badidy ( $81.93 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $40.37 USD )
Seat 5: D4RTHV4D3R420 ( $25.93 USD )
Seat 6: ThatGuy222 ( $39.95 USD )
urbancamper posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Badidy posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Jd Js ]
hockeyguy321 raises [$1.00 USD] standard pfr
D4RTHV4D3R420 folds
ThatGuy222 folds
Dreamstation raises [$3.35 USD] this guy was 15/7/1.6 over 778 hands- ALERT ALERT ALERT
urbancamper folds
Badidy calls [$3.10 USD] usual dork call here
hockeyguy321 calls [$2.35 USD] 1.6 % 3BET range is AA KK QQ/AK
but i figure if a J hits its all going in so i am getting pot about $7.50 + rest of his stack $22=30/2.35 or about 13/1 implied odds plus i have ding dong caller in bb that could add another $40 on the upside so i think a call is correct rather than a reraise or fold
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 4d, 4s ]
Badidy bets [$5.08 USD] yikes, now i am trapped between a donk and probable bigger pair
hockeyguy321 folds
Dreamstation raises [$21.65 USD] and there is your bigger pr
Badidy calls [$16.57 USD]
Dreamstation shows [Ks, Kd ]
Badidy shows [9d, 9h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
Dreamstation wins $50.78 USD from main pot

And here is the last 2 suckouts before i quit just to make me feel better


I think this hand speaks for itself

***** Hand History for Game 27244375464 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 24, 12:58:41 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (27244375) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: sexyC0CK ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 2: tango05 ( $4.72 USD )
Seat 3: TapuKaT ( $35.50 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $44.32 USD )
Seat 5: Sneaky2K ( $27.62 USD )
Seat 6: ElJugador809 ( $25.00 USD )
Sneaky2K posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
ElJugador809 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Kd Ac ]
tango05 folds
TapuKaT folds
hockeyguy321 raises [$1.00 USD]
Sneaky2K calls [$0.90 USD]
ElJugador809 calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Jd, Ah ]
Sneaky2K checks
ElJugador809 checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$2.50 USD]
Sneaky2K calls [$2.50 USD]
ElJugador809 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
Sneaky2K checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$6.50 USD]
Sneaky2K raises [$24.12 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$17.62 USD]
hockeyguy321 shows [Kd, Ac ]
Sneaky2K shows [Jh, Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
Sneaky2K wins $54.24 USD from main pot

I think this hand speaks for itself

I guess this hand shows good decisions don’t always give a good result

***** Hand History for Game 27244940388 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 24, 12:50:14 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (27244940) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: IMTonyMontana ( $47.38 USD )
Seat 2: Sneaky2K ( $23.30 USD )
Seat 3: hockeyguy321 ( $24.75 USD )
Seat 4: MorganeLeFay ( $27.12 USD )
Seat 5: technovikingaces ( $53.99 USD )
Seat 6: holdemchrung ( $24.34 USD )
hockeyguy321 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
MorganeLeFay posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Qc Jc ]
technovikingaces calls [$0.25 USD]
holdemchrung raises [$1.10 USD] 87/33/9 preflop
IMTonyMontana folds
Sneaky2K calls [$1.10 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$1.00 USD] pfr is maniac, looking multiway pot, qjs good enough
MorganeLeFay folds
technovikingaces calls [$0.85 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 5s, 9d ]
hockeyguy321 checks
technovikingaces checks
holdemchrung bets [$0.25 USD]
Sneaky2K calls [$0.25 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$5.65 USD] weak arse bet, pretty standard raise here
technovikingaces folds
holdemchrung calls [$5.40 USD]
Sneaky2K folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
hockeyguy321 checks i want to see what goofball does
holdemchrung raises [$17.59 USD] instashove per his 3.7/5.8/5.0 post flop aggression
he had done this several times already w/ nothing, when had something he would bet less and take longer to bet
hockeyguy321 calls [$17.59 USD]
hockeyguy321 shows [Qc, Jc ]
holdemchrung shows [Qs, Kc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
holdemchrung wins $48.82 USD from main pot

yeppers, that was all i could take


In all honesty after this session i just wanted to quit the challenge and go play my regular games and bust out a few sng’s to try to get some decent mojo back. I was already somewhat frustrated w/ my results thus far and this fiasco didn’t help. Upon further reflection the next day i still felt the same way, but now a couple days later i realized this is probably a pretty common thing that happens to players and their bankrolls so i didn’t want to wuss out. So i decided i needed to follow the challenge rules to hopefully show a bad downswing or 2 isn’t the end of the world and doesn’t mean you can’t beat the games. You just need to be honest w/ yourself about whether you were getting it in good and being unlucky rather than getting your money in bad and losing as you should. I believe i have new appreciation (and by that i mean i F***ing hate it) and understanding of variance.

i will take a few days to regroup before i jump back in and also get ready for the start of school


overall results to date
Bankroll $424.11 includes rakeback etc, winrate from HM doesn’t include rakeback/bonus etc
25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -1.5 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Hi Hockeyguy,

over the last couple of weeks I've been reading your posts about your challenge. I've been grinding at the 50 Dollar tables recently and I took a bit of a downswing. Your struggle gives me confidence that I haven't turned into a bad player at once . Just wanna say "Hang in there!'

Erik

i appreciate the kind words
as i said, the post Morten made of 3 bad hands in a row made me feel better
I have been playing long enough to not sweat a bad beat or two or three,
but holy crap i was passed around like the prison B*****.

But a lot worse things have happened to a lot better people than me,
so chin up and tally ho

rob

Howdy again all

Finally got in a few short sessions after a crazy start to new school year

Overall results between 9/16 and 9/22
10 nl to get back to $250 bankroll and 25nl
Started at $198.62
1052 hands
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
44bb/100
End $255.93


Only a few hh, nothing really interesting since they are from 10nl, but they do show basic abc poker to beat these type games, i hit a couple other sets and draws to stack a few players, basically redundant to these hh

***** Hand History for Game 27932122380 ***** (Merge)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 19, 11:19:20 ET 2010
Table Lima (27932122) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: alf164 ( $13.09 USD )
Seat 2: ariaslives7 ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 3: Gambleaway ( $25.05 USD )
Seat 4: PokerPlan ( $9.44 USD )
Seat 5: MagikoMyko ( $18.87 USD )
Seat 6: hockeyguy321 ( $15.11 USD )
alf164 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
ariaslives7 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 6s 6c ]
Gambleaway calls [$0.10 USD]
PokerPlan folds
MagikoMyko calls [$0.10 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.10 USD] i did occasionally limp in ep w 66 55 44 33 22 on passive tables at these games to try to generate multiway action or catch a big pair behind
alf164 folds
ariaslives7 raises [$0.55 USD]
Gambleaway folds
MagikoMyko calls [$0.55 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.55 USD] a good situation w a pfr and a caller both w full stacks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Js, 5s ]
ariaslives7 bets [$1.40 USD]
MagikoMyko folds
hockeyguy321 raises [$2.80 USD] i want to start building the pot, but not push out AK AQ hands, i can expect QQ+ or AJ to 3 bet here putting me on Jx type hand after i limped in EP
ariaslives7 raises [$7.95 USD] bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hockeyguy321 calls [$6.55 USD]
ariaslives7 shows [Qs, Qd ]
hockeyguy321 shows [6s, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
hockeyguy321 wins $19.76 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 279166911726 ***** (Merge)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 19, 11:20:31 ET 2010
Table Lima (27916691) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Caesar10 ( $15.47 USD )
Seat 2: MrShire ( $5.41 USD )
Seat 3: hockeyguy321 ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 4: MagikoMyko ( $17.17 USD )
Seat 5: alf164 ( $9.99 USD )
Seat 6: MarnieTfs ( $17.62 USD )
MagikoMyko posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
alf164 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 8s 9s ]
MarnieTfs calls [$0.10 USD]
Caesar10 calls [$0.10 USD]
MrShire folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.10 USD] 2 limpers and i have position, if 1 limper i fold or raise
MagikoMyko calls [$0.05 USD]
alf164 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 6d, Jc ] very good flop, only 1 over, open end draw AND rainbow, if i hit I KNOW I HAVE THE NUTS AND my outs don’t make an over to the J or complete a flush
MagikoMyko checks
alf164 bets [$0.50 USD]
MarnieTfs folds
Caesar10 calls [$0.50 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.50 USD] standard call here, a lead better most likely has a J, caller may as well, no reason to raise as both aren’t folding and you may get reraised by lead bettor which could ruin you odds
MagikoMyko folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ] great card, may make jt 2 pair, 10 nl players love JT, non overcard to the J
alf164 bets [$2.00 USD]
Caesar10 calls [$2.00 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$6.00 USD] solid raise 3x, hoping for both to call, no need for bigger bet that has bigger chance to fold out both, 2 caller for 4 each is better than 0 or 1 callers at 6 each, 3x raise has might let bettor shove trapping caller in middle, the main point is to raise w/ the nuts when it is bet into you- don’t sloplay
alf164 folds
Caesar10 calls [$4.00 USD] strangely better folds, caller calls
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ], not great as it puts 4 to a str8,
Caesar10 checks
hockeyguy321 calls [$3.40 USD], tried to get a little value from chronic caller, sadly not, it was a smallish bet or shove, i thought small had bettr chance to get called
Caesar10 folds
hockeyguy321 wins $18.60 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 27734514217 ***** (Merge)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 12, 12:02:30 ET 2010
Table Lima (27734514) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: PHRSignet29 ( $27.21 USD )
Seat 2: hockeyguy321 ( $16.86 USD )
Seat 3: sbpadlec7 ( $5.46 USD )
Seat 4: TARPninja ( $17.47 USD )
Seat 5: IDareU2Raise ( $20.58 USD )
Seat 6: TCTMRover ( $0.96 USD )
sbpadlec7 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
TARPninja posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 3c 3s ]
IDareU2Raise raises [$0.40 USD]
TCTMRover folds
PHRSignet29 calls [$0.40 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.40 USD] a raise and caller both deep, classic set mining
sbpadlec7 calls [$0.35 USD]
TARPninja folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 6c, Ks ] not a great flop
sbpadlec7 checks
IDareU2Raise checks
PHRSignet29 checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$1.50 USD] a bad situation just got better, 3 folds on a pretty dry flop
obviously no K out, there may be a str8 or flush draw or possible middle pocket pair, but in a raised pot so many hands miss this flop AND FEAR THE K, i think a stab is +EV, not a wussy bet, but a bet that looks like i have a K , ¾ to near pot bet, i want to end it here and a real bet has a better chance, it forces possible better hands to think about calling 2 more substantial bets, most 10nl players think KQ AK are calling hands preflop and will give you credit here unless they have Kx

sbpadlec7 folds
IDareU2Raise folds
PHRSignet29 folds
hockeyguy321 wins $3.12 USD from main pot- selective aggression pays, don’t be afraid to take some stabs


overall results to date
Bankroll $255.93
take 2 at 25 nl coming up


25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -6 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Another
1052 hands at 10 nl
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
To get back to $250 bankroll to go to 25 nl

Overall 10 nl
6867 hands
$207 total profit
30bb/100 hands at 10 nl (includes about $40 in rakeback)
24bb/100 hands at 10 nl not counting rakeback

Howdy again all

I got in a few more short sessions of 25nl

Overall results
Started at $255.93
625 hands
+$ 17.90 + rakeback $4.18
11bb/100
End $278.15

I got off to a bad start Friday night with a set of 333 to set of 999 and then made second best flush 3 way where all 3 players made a flush on the turn, bad play by me on river and so i was 2 BI’s down right off the starting line, I struggled for a while after that and was down almost 4 BI’s before i caught a few hands and rallied back to less than 2 BI’s down. This is my usual goal if i am having a bad session, i try to get back half so i don’t put too much pressure on myself, if i get back more cool, but i usually feel pretty good if i can get back half. I played another couple short sessions saturday and was able to have a decent result finishing up about 3 BI’s. Yeah i did violate the $250 bankroll Saturday am, but i was sick of 10nl so i took a chance and it worked out

Here are a few hh.


Non sloplaying big hand

***** Hand History for Game 28066948281 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, September 25, 05:00:47 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28066948) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: BluffBoyBluff ( $100.90 USD )
Seat 2: hockeyguy321 ( $24.90 USD )
Seat 3: DGdukie ( $47.24 USD )
Seat 4: KINGRICHARD47 ( $20.67 USD )
Seat 5: Poecilotheriapoker ( $24.90 USD )
Seat 6: maxrpm ( $24.75 USD )
maxrpm posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
BluffBoyBluff posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 5h 5c ]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.25 USD] I do mix in a few limped small pairs in ep if i have several tags behind me, it helps keep pot size down and implied odds up, if i raise and get 3 bet i typically have to fold, but i can profitably limp call w/ many raisers
DGdukie folds
KINGRICHARD47 calls [$0.25 USD]
Poecilotheriapoker raises [$1.35 USD]
maxrpm folds
BluffBoyBluff folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$1.10 USD] full stacked tag raised, implied odds good to go and possible multiway with other limper
KINGRICHARD47 calls [$1.10 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 5d, Qh ] Bingo, now how to get value here, other limper is 57/32 preflop, flop is pretty dry, i don’t want lag getting free card if he has a draw, if pfr has AK AJ he may check behind as well, if lag has something i can trap him between us since he is clueless and might call with all kinds of crap, A baby, Qx, 2 hearts, middle pairs etc, If i bet and pfr has something my donk bet can put pressure on him to protect his hand by raising if he has something as he doesn’t want the lag lingering either
hockeyguy321 bets [$2.20 USD]- i choose to make a weakish donk looking ½ pot bet, trying to bait lag and give tag a chance to protect his hand
KINGRICHARD47 calls [$2.20 USD]- this shows why not to trap yourself in between players that raised
Poecilotheriapoker raises [$10.45 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$21.35 USD] I love it when a plan comes together, time to get it in, if i just call it is too close to giving lag odds to chase a flush, it is important to remember what odds you are offering your opponents, you want to offer odds that make it wrong for them to call
the pfr isn’t folding, so i shove
KINGRICHARD47 folds
Poecilotheriapoker calls [$13.10 USD]
hockeyguy321 shows [5h, 5c ]
Poecilotheriapoker shows [Qc, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
hockeyguy321 wins $51.02 USD from main pot
Notice i got a bit of extra value (9BB) from lag by donking and created a situation that almost forced pfr to stack off if he has a hand, if he has weak hand i still have a chance to get value from a caller or two of my donk bet, a check in this situation does none of this. It is important to look at table dynamics as it can create very favorable or unfavorable situations in multiway pots.


Always looking for spots to steal small pots

***** Hand History for Game 280548401648 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, September 25, 05:07:07 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28054840) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: gabrielroque31 ( $5.50 USD )
Seat 2: STILLTILTIN ( $18.96 USD )
Seat 3: hockeyguy321 ( $33.95 USD )
Seat 4: BluffBoyBluff ( $51.63 USD )
Seat 5: maxrpm ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 6: MrDonaldKey ( $22.80 USD )
BluffBoyBluff posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
maxrpm posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 2h 2c ]
MrDonaldKey folds
gabrielroque31 calls [$0.25 USD]
STILLTILTIN folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.25 USD] i just decided to try to see a cheap flop
BluffBoyBluff folds
maxrpm checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, Kh, 5s ]
maxrpm checks
gabrielroque31 checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$0.70 USD] don’t be afraid to take a stab, 22 is likely best hand as well
maxrpm folds
gabrielroque31 calls [$0.70 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ] Obviously a great card creating a chance to win a big pot if other guy is sloplaying KJ or cant fold a top pair type hand
gabrielroque31 checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$1.30 USD]
gabrielroque31 folds
hockeyguy321 wins $3.44 USD from main pot Sadly he folds, but aggression on flop had chance to take pot and totally disguised big hand on turn creating chance to win a big pot


***** Hand History for Game 28066948289 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, September 25, 05:07:17 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28066948) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: BluffBoyBluff ( $100.20 USD )
Seat 2: hockeyguy321 ( $51.22 USD )
Seat 3: DGdukie ( $49.96 USD )
Seat 4: KINGRICHARD47 ( $21.58 USD )
Seat 5: Poecilotheriapoker ( $17.71 USD )
Seat 6: maxrpm ( $25.00 USD )
hockeyguy321 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
DGdukie posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 7d Ad ]
KINGRICHARD47 calls [$0.25 USD]
Poecilotheriapoker calls [$0.25 USD]
maxrpm folds
BluffBoyBluff folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.15 USD] chance to see cheap flop OOP w/ suited Ace that can make a big hand
DGdukie checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Th, Ac ]
hockeyguy321 checks Too many players and OOP to take stab, no way they all fold, so then you are in bad spot on turn w/ marginal hand OOP
DGdukie checks
KINGRICHARD47 bets [$0.40 USD]
Poecilotheriapoker folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.40 USD] too cheap to fold tp
DGdukie folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
hockeyguy321 bets [$1.20 USD] i need to bet Aces up for value and not let another heart hit for free, i can rep a flush so unlikey to get raised by many hands
KINGRICHARD47 calls [$1.20 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ] Bingo, again very disguised, so how to get value, it seems like he is weak so he might not even call a value size bet, but he is a 57/32 guy pre flop and doesn’t fold much to C bets, so i go for the big bet trying to look fishy, it will get called less often than smaller value bet, but doesn’t have to over the long run, plus adds some mystery to my river play
hockeyguy321 raises [$49.37 USD]
KINGRICHARD47 folds, sadly he folds
hockeyguy321 wins $53.36 USD from main pot



overall results to date
take 2 at 25 nl coming up
Second round of 25NL
Started at $255.93
625 hands
+$ 17.90 + rakeback $4.18
11bb/100
End $278.15

First round of 25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -6 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Another
1052 hands at 10 nl
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
To get back to $250 bankroll to go to 25 nl

Overall 10 nl
6867 hands
$207 total profit
30bb/100 hands at 10 nl (includes about $40 in rakeback)
24bb/100 hands at 10 nl not counting rakeback

Howdy again all

I got in another short sessions of 25nl sunday

Started at $278.15 + rakeback $2.80=280.95
166 hands
+$19.44
48 bb/100
End $300.39

I have been making a concerted effort to tighten up a bit in this second visit to the 25nl level. After thinking about my previous play in this challenge and being frustrated by poor results, some bad runs of cards, and pretty sloppy play in too many spots by me. I decided that i was being a bit cocky and far too disrespectful of the opponentswhich led to me putting myself in too many marginal positions. Therefore in order to get back on track i will revert to more strict value guidelines in hand selection as well as paying more attention to position. I believe my desire to complete the challenge as quickly as possible and total disregard for the opponents combined to let my play stray into too many LAGGY type plays which was not the point of the challenge, it was designed to show how simple solid ABC poker is sufficient to beat the microgames and build a bankroll with relatively little trouble. I have also learned i am not good enough to get too laggy in my play which is good to know.

Here are a few hh.

Small pr vs rock

***** Hand History for Game 2809306986 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 26, 04:38:04 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28093069) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: ncuxo211 ( $30.52 USD )
Seat 2: BluffBoyBluff ( $28.84 USD )
Seat 3: brickcity777 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 4: egolav ( $24.75 USD )
Seat 5: ShoveDonkey ( $32.84 USD )
Seat 6: hockeyguy321 ( $24.65 USD )
egolav posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
ShoveDonkey posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 2d 2s ]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.25 USD] a limp here w/ many tags behind me, if i raise i have to fold to a 3 bet, i can call a raise if i limp as i will be getting 25/1 or so implied odds and nobody fears a 2 on the flop

ncuxo211 folds
BluffBoyBluff raises [$1.25 USD] Mr Rock raise, as he should, but notice i am still priced in

14/11/1.7 preflop
5/2.5/inf post flop aggression

brickcity777 folds
egolav folds
ShoveDonkey folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$1.00 USD] standard set mining call
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 2h, 8h ]

hockeyguy321 checks- here is where having a plan really helps, notice the rock is very aggro on flop, so he will bet anything on this flop if i check, he might fold overs if i Donk
BluffBoyBluff bets [$2.00 USD]- no surprise C bet
hockeyguy321 raises [$5.00 USD] OK, now part 2 of the plan, the guy is a rock so i give him credit for paying some attention to common plays at this level, like a weakish check raise with a draw on a raggy flop, given his aggro flop play i expect him to at least call after a C bet and to reraise with an over pair (which given his preflop tightness is very possible). My bet size is picked to look a bit weak like many check raisers make w/ a draw at these levels, it gives him a chance to call w/ overs (more value than if i make 4x raise and he folds) drawing basically dead, or get frisky w/ a big pair, either way is fine with me. The only hand i am concerned with vs this rock is AhKh or AhQh, both of which he will get it in with and i am big fave to beat anyway, i don’t put 88 77 or other heart draw in his range.

Also notice bet sizing, when i check raise, a 3x reraise by him leaves him little left so it is an easy shove for him, if i donk into him and he makes 4x raise and i shove he still has most of his stack left and might be able to get away from some of his range- just something else to be aware of looking ahead in the hand

BluffBoyBluff raises [$25.59 USD] i hear the fat lady warming up
hockeyguy321 calls [$18.40 USD]
BluffBoyBluff shows [Kd, Ks ]
hockeyguy321 shows [2d, 2s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
BluffBoyBluff wins $4.19 USD
hockeyguy321 wins $47.17 USD from main pot- Que the fat lady

notice vs a passive player i probably donk into him and not let the pot go unbet hoping he has enough to at least call with for a street or two, if they have an overpair they will raise the flop or turn anyway, but you cant count on them C betting a miss

bottom line- have a plan, it may be different for different types of opponents, but having a plan increases the chance to get max value, the hand above may well turn out the same no matter what i did, but it is quite tragic to not get the opponent’s entire stack in a situation like this which i have seen many many times in these games due to poor play by the player withe the big hand


overall results to date
Second round of 25NL
Started at $255.10
762 hands
+$ 45.29
18 bb/100 win rate
End $300.39
about 4 hours

First round of 25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -6 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Another
1052 hands at 10 nl
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
+44bb/100 hands
To get back to $250 bankroll to go to 25 nl

Overall 10 nl
6867 hands
$207 total profit
30bb/100 hands at 10 nl (includes about $40 in rakeback)
24bb/100 hands at 10 nl not counting rakeback

Howdy again everyone
Sorry for the kind of long post
After a crazy start to the new school year and the end of the high school golf season
I finally have some free time and energy to get back to playing a little poker. I haven’t had time to fit in any long sessions, but i have fit in several shorter sessions typically ranging between 1 and 2 hours over the last week. I have listed the results by date and start and finish bankroll

10/3
$260.50
$278.07

10/4
$280.19
$285.15

10/8
$285.18
$297.60

10/9
$297.60
$307.37

10/9
$307.37
99 AQs 9T
$322.14

10/9
$322.14
$312.61

10/9
$312.61
$320.19

10/10
$325.75 rakeback $5.59
$338.67

10/10
$338.67
$347.16

10/10
$347.16
$357.17

10/10
$357.17
$363.65

The thing that is evident is that i didn’t have any huge winning sessions and i finished 9 out of 10 sessions ahead and it added up to decent results overall.


Since 10/3
I was typically playing 3 tables so i have about 15 hours played over these sessions or about $7/hr winrate

2369 hands
+$99.82 (ev +$97.82) + about $5 in rakeback
16.8 bb/100 hands
Vpip 22.6%
Pfr 15.0%
3 bet % 5.2
Call vs 3 bet 22%
Squeeze 4.4%
Wtsd 24%


Below are the results for last 12,000 hands at 25 nl prior to 10/3
-$155.18 (ev -$46.84) remembering i lost over 9 buyins (over $240 ) in a world class
hideous session In the middle of September during these 12000 hands

-5 bb/100 hands
Vpip 25.7%
Pfr 17.8%
3 bet 6.2%
Call vs 3 bet 38%
Squeeze 4.6%
Wtsd 27%

Comparing results to the stretch of hands i played before 10/3 and struggled to make any progress a couple things are evident besides the difference in results. Firstly I finally managed to muster some discipline and tightened up a bit preflop as i had mentioned in previous posts. While it was only a couple % off vpip and pfr and 1% off 3 bet, those were the weakest hands from my range which i think did help me be in better value position postflop in the most recent 2300 hands. The other things that are different were slightly less wtsd from 27% to 24%, again hopefully reducing river calls with the weaker, or more vulnerable hands, or hands that were clearly beat. Lastly and the biggest change was the large decrease in my call 3 bet% from 38% to 22%. Again eliminating a lot of calls with weak (small/med pairs) or vulnerable hands (AT, KQ,AJ etc) keeping me out of bad spots. I had started to get a bit too laggy and i am just not yet good enough to play that way.

I still believe i had more than my share of bad beats during the previous 12,000 hands, but i also know i was playing poorly. Specifically, I was habitually breaking one of the 3 basic tenets to beating micro/low stakes NL games.

Value Bet made hands
Don’t try to make big bluffs (this different than Cbetting or stealing little pots)
Don’t payoff when lags hit their hands- I WAS KILLING MYSELF HERE

I was paying off way too many hands when i knew i was beat, and not just smallish value bets but also paying off big bets. This was killing my results. I have regained the ability to make a laydown. I can sit here now and think of at least 3 hands that if i had called would have eaten up at least ½ of the winnings over the last 2300 hands. I have still taken a few bad beats, but recently i have eliminated most of the wounds i had gotten into the habit of inflicting on myself.

While 2300 hands is a very small sample, i am confident i have regained my previous form at these levels and will continue to play more disciplined poker rather than “trying to win money”
The first will lead to the second, the other way not so much. I have some more thoughts on my poor play during the 25nl portion of this challenge which i am currently trying to collect into a cogent post.

2 HH to look at

Small pair from early position vs loose/aggressive players behind

***** Hand History for Game 28421149215 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 10, 07:48:19 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28421149) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Moreph ( $29.91 USD )
Seat 2: toine16 ( $21.60 USD )
Seat 3: MikeyD44 ( $49.67 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $25.76 USD )
Seat 5: nchurr30 ( $7.36 USD )
Seat 6: insuranceguy26 ( $27.42 USD )
toine16 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
MikeyD44 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 5s 5d ]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.25 USD] i limp utg
nchurr30 folds
27/3 guy, unlikely he will raise, but if he does he has a very narrow range- perfect

insuranceguy26 calls [$0.25 USD]
55/27/25 guy, he will call w/ wide hand range which makes 55 tough to play oop. He raises and 3 bets a wide range, 55 vs a 3 bet oop is tough vs such a wide range since any over card is possible for this guy, but if i limp and he raise i am getting good implied odds vs his full stack

Moreph raises [$1.00 USD]
50/14/5.3 guy, loose caller, tightish raiser , he could easily call a pfr or just call in a limped pot

toine16 calls [$0.90 USD]
64/6/0 guy, again loose caller with very tight raise range

MikeyD44 calls [$0.75 USD]
28/3/0 guy, could call in BB getting discount, very tight raise range

hockeyguy321 calls [$0.75 USD] You gotta love it when a plan comes together
getting 4/1 preflop to call w/ 3 lags w full stack, great chance to win a big pot if i hit a set

insuranceguy26 calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 3d, 9h ] sadly i miss the flop
toine16 checks
MikeyD44 bets [$1.20 USD]
hockeyguy321 folds
insuranceguy26 folds
Moreph folds
toine16 folds
MikeyD44 wins $5.95 USD from main pot

The point of the hand is not the outcome, but that by looking at your hand, your position, and likely actions of the other players you can create very favourable situations for yourself. A raise in this situation is going to result in a lot of tough situations post flop vs several loose players in position behind you and you miss the flop.


A good spot for sOOted connector

***** Hand History for Game 28421149218 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 10, 07:50:57 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28421149) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Moreph ( $27.81 USD )
Seat 2: toine16 ( $24.11 USD )
Seat 3: MikeyD44 ( $52.17 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $24.41 USD )
Seat 5: nchurr30 ( $7.11 USD )
Seat 6: insuranceguy26 ( $25.57 USD )
nchurr30 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
insuranceguy26 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 7h 8h ]
Moreph calls [$0.25 USD]
toine16 calls [$0.25 USD]
MikeyD44 folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.25 USD] same cast of characters, but i am in position and they are mostly passive preflop so i can play the hand cheap preflop and very possibly postflop vs full stacked calling stations
nchurr30 calls [$0.15 USD]
insuranceguy26 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 4h, Qc ]
nchurr30 checks
insuranceguy26 checks
Moreph checks
toine16 checks
hockeyguy321 checks and there you go, i got to see a cheap flop and a free turn card
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
nchurr30 checks
insuranceguy26 checks
Moreph bets [$1.00 USD]
toine16 calls [$1.00 USD]
hockeyguy321 folds i took a shot and it didn’t work out, a passive player bets and gets called, almost no chance i am best w/ 3rd pair, i am not getting good odds, i am not drawing to high probability of best hand, and i don’t close the betting as it could get raised behind me if i call. Not a good spot to chase, just going to bleed off chips
nchurr30 calls [$1.00 USD]
insuranceguy26 folds
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
nchurr30 checks
Moreph bets [$3.50 USD]
toine16 folds
nchurr30 folds
Moreph wins $7.54 USD from main pot

gl all HG

overall results to date
Second round of 25NL
Started at $255.10 (sept. 23)
3654 hands
+$ 108.55
12 bb/100 win rate
End $363.65


First round of 25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -6 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Another visit to get back to $250 bankroll
1052 hands at 10 nl
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
44 bb/100 hands
To get back to $250 bankroll to go to 25 nl

Overall 10 nl includes 1st and second visit to 10nl
6867 hands
$207 total profit
30bb/100 hands at 10 nl (includes about $40 in rakeback)
24bb/100 hands at 10 nl not counting rakeback

Howdy again everyone

I have listed the results by date and start and finish bankroll
Various hh that demo interesting hands or important concepts

10/12
$363.65 +$4.87= $368.52
$377.03
265.39

A COUPLE hh FROM THIS SESSION

***** Hand History for Game 28469440291 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 12, 10:10:20 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28469440) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Dominic41390 ( $8.73 USD )
Seat 2: BlufffDaddy ( $12.74 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $26.71 USD )
Seat 6: TechSass1 ( $38.24 USD )
BlufffDaddy posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
hockeyguy321 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Th Ac ]
TechSass1 folds
Dominic41390 calls [$0.25 USD]
BlufffDaddy calls [$0.15 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$1.50 USD] standard raise of limpers
Dominic41390 calls [$1.50 USD]
BlufffDaddy calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Tc, Js ]
BlufffDaddy checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$4.00 USD] i want to bet here vs short stacks, it gives a ton of draws that short stacks wont fold, so help them get it in while they are way behind
Dominic41390 raises [$6.98 USD]
BlufffDaddy folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$2.98 USD]
Dominic41390 shows [Jd, Qh ]
Dominic41390 raises [$6.98 USD]
BlufffDaddy folds
hockeyguy321 calls [$2.98 USD]
Dominic41390 shows [Jd, Qh ]
hockeyguy321 shows [Th, Ac ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
hockeyguy321 wins $18.25 USD from main pot




10/13
$377.03
265.39+$4.32=$369.71
$372.63

10/14
$372.63
$377.67

10/14
$378.75 rb
$375.69

10/16
$375.69
$357.34
Lost 21+, ev was +20 over 400 hands
A frustrating session GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***** Hand History for Game 28555107576 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 16, 04:55:41 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28555107) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: avijomies ( $21.65 USD )
Seat 2: ALLINTINA ( $7.21 USD )
Seat 3: moratty ( $28.18 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $24.75 USD )
Seat 5: frankiethekid ( $62.24 USD )
Seat 6: LoLBluffraiseAI ( $25.00 USD )
hockeyguy321 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
frankiethekid posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 6c 6d ]
LoLBluffraiseAI folds
avijomies raises [$0.85 USD]
ALLINTINA calls [$0.85 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.75 USD] std call vs a couple taggy players which makes it pretty easy to know where i am at postflop, also i expect the maniac behind to likely call to give me even better odds- the point being to get in habit of anticipating what opponent will do

frankiethekid folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 6h, Qh ] lag folds but i hit my hand
hockeyguy321 checks i check here expecting at least 1 of the tags to bet a made hand or try to rep AK AQ. This gets money in pot if they have not much and grows pot if they hit their hand
both good for me, if they have nothing and check, a donk bet would get no value from hamds that missed, a check also gives a chance to trap preflop caller between pfr and me
avijomies bets [$1.87 USD]
ALLINTINA folds
hockeyguy321 raises [$6.00 USD] i 3x raise will not push out too many made hands
avijomies raises [$18.93 USD] if he has qq or kk god bless him
hockeyguy321 calls [$14.80 USD]
avijomies shows [Qd, Kh ]
hockeyguy321 shows [6c, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ] Shazammm, another big fave goes down after i get the money
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
avijomies wins $42.18 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 28555107581 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 16, 04:59:16 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28555107) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: avijomies ( $52.81 USD )
Seat 3: moratty ( $26.68 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: frankiethekid ( $59.43 USD )
Seat 6: LoLBluffraiseAI ( $25.68 USD )
moratty posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
hockeyguy321 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Kc Ah ]
frankiethekid raises [$0.85 USD] 60/44/25 preflop over 120+ hands
LoLBluffraiseAI folds
avijomies raises [$2.90 USD] a taggy player i give him credit for seeing Frankie is way out of line so his 3 bet range is quite wide, a 4 bet puts a lot of pressure on him
moratty folds
hockeyguy321 raises [$12.25 USD] bet size says i am playing for my stack AND THEY WILL HAVE TO AS WELL
frankiethekid calls [$11.40 USD] i give him credit for a small/med pair based on observation he never folded a pair preflop or postflop

avijomies folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, Kh, 9c ] bingo
hockeyguy321 checks notice this different from AT hand above, if he has a pair this very aggro player will rep the K and there are no draws he will call with. The yahoo had made several overbets w/ weak hands or draws previously, no reason to believe he wont do it again
Notice he should have known from my preflop bet size i have committed to playing for my stack so i am not folding to any bet
This is the difference in play that OutStandingPoker.com trys to demonstrate and promote that each hand is different so you need to always be thinking and evaluating every situation when you are playing using all the information availible.
frankiethekid raises [$47.18 USD] ChaChing
hockeyguy321 calls [$12.75 USD]
hockeyguy321 shows [Kc, Ah ]
frankiethekid shows [2c, 2h ] notice he called a 4 bet w/22, he went broker shortly afterward
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
frankiethekid wins $34.43 USD
hockeyguy321 wins $51.00 USD from main pot

when it rains it pours with bad beats, but the bigger point is to be able to lay down a hand

***** Hand History for Game 28559726239 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 16, 05:28:24 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28559726) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Poobs123 ( $15.68 USD )
Seat 2: D4RTHV4D3R420 ( $23.87 USD )
Seat 3: robybob33 ( $40.54 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $59.13 USD )
Seat 5: LoLBluffraiseAI ( $36.94 USD )
Seat 6: RunninHi ( $53.08 USD )
RunninHi posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Poobs123 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Kc Jc ]
D4RTHV4D3R420 folds
robybob33 calls [$0.25 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$1.30 USD] i raze a serial limper 42/3
LoLBluffraiseAI folds
RunninHi folds
Poobs123 folds
robybob33 raises [$2.35 USD] I have been razing him constantly for about an hour, he makes a min 3 bet, smells like a big pair AK type hand, so i am getting good odds AND WE ARE BOTH DEEP so if i flop big i can win a big pot
hockeyguy321 calls [$1.05 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 9s, Qh ] bingo i flop the nuts
robybob33 bets [$0.25 USD] a strange bet for a normal player, but smells like a draw or big hand from this type of player
hockeyguy321 raises [$5.80 USD] if he has set or overpair i want to get the money in, if he has a draw i want to charge him since unlikely he can lay it down
robybob33 calls [$5.55 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ] WORST POSSIBLE CARD COMPLETES AK GUT SHOT AND FLUSH
robybob33 checks
hockeyguy321 checks i want to get to showdown, if he made his hand i don’t want him checking raising me, if he didn’t i am way ahead
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
robybob33 raises [$32.39 USD] crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hockeyguy321 folds i end up folding, the guy is 0.4, 0.6, 1.2 aggression postflop
he isn’t trying to buy pot with a straight on board, so i rule out a set or overpair
i give him credit for at least a K to tie my straight, but more likely AK, possibly AhKh
my fold is the result of his normally ultra passive betting and both of us being deep
per my recent posts on the 3 keys to beating small stakes games
DONT PAY THEM OFF WHEN THEY SPIKE A MONSTER
I DONT WANT TO PAY ODD ALMOST 2 FULL STACKS WHEN I AN ONLY 7 BUCKS INVESTED
I JUST DONT SEE THIS TYPE OF PLAYER SHOWING UP W/ ANYTHING I BEAT
robybob33 wins $48.21 USD from main pot

Time for a break to let frustration lessen
I did have s good session at 100nl and 200nl last nite after hockey so gotta take the good with the bad
FYI- I highly recommend the 12 yr old Jameson’s Irish Whiskey, Smoooootttthhhhhhhhhhhh!!
It was one of the guys birthday, so a good time was had by all

gl all HG

overall results to date
Second round of 25NL
Started at $255.10 (sept. 23)
5255 hands
+$ 107.55
8 bb/100 win rate
End $357.34


First round of 25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -6 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Another visit to get back to $250 bankroll
1052 hands at 10 nl
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
44 bb/100 hands
To get back to $250 bankroll to go to 25 nl

Overall 10 nl includes 1st and second visit to 10nl
6867 hands
$207 total profit
30bb/100 hands at 10 nl (includes about $40 in rakeback)
24bb/100 hands at 10 nl not counting rakeback

Howdy again everyone

I have listed the results by date and start and finish bankroll
Various hh that demo interesting hands or important concepts


10/16
$375.69 start
$357.34 end

10/21
$357.34
379.30

10/22
385.26
395.65

10/23
395.65
385.16

10/24
385.16
407.45

10/25
411.45
422.97

A frustrating hand

***** Hand History for Game 28785993133 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, October 25, 07:09:21 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28785993) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: sandybay2 ( $38.98 USD )
Seat 2: mizpho ( $56.70 USD )
Seat 3: BAANNGG ( $26.66 USD )
Seat 4: dedihindi ( $25.13 USD )
Seat 5: hockeyguy321 ( $24.58 USD )
Seat 6: DonkeysHunter ( $25.00 USD )
DonkeysHunter posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
sandybay2 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Jh Tc ]
mizpho calls [$0.25 USD]
BAANNGG folds
dedihindi calls [$0.25 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.25 USD] A RARE LIMP, BUT I AM IN POSITION W/ A GOOD MULTIWAY HAND VS 2 LOOSE LIMPERS

DonkeysHunter folds
sandybay2 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Js, 6d ] VERY GOOD FLOP
sandybay2 checks
mizpho bets [$1.10 USD]
dedihindi calls [$1.10 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$6.00 USD] SWEET, ACTION IN FRONT OF ME
JT IS AN ACTION FLOP GIVEN THE HUGE RANGE OF HANDS IT HITS
ak aq aj kq k9 98 97 78 q9 any 2 diamonds and any hand with a j or T

given the action I expect both player to have hit part of the flop so I want to get more in the pot with top 2 pair, i dont expect a set of 666 given virtually nobody leads a set at this level

sandybay2 folds
mizpho calls [$4.90 USD]
dedihindi calls [$4.90 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ] sweet, both players call and I hit gin w/ a boat
mizpho checks
dedihindi checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$10.00 USD] not surprising both check to raiser
now how much to bet, I have to assume both hit flop pretty solid after they called my solid check raise, virtually every draw is dead to my boat so I don’t want to push them out. Given my raise on flop it is hard to put me on Tx, except maybe JT. I want to get at least 1 caller. Sadly I don’t get any callers. It is hard to figure what they call the check raise with but fold to a smallish bet if they have a draw in a big pot. Most players at this level discount opponents have a boat and they are drawing dead, they will call any draw anyway. If they have a draw I want to charge the something, if they miss they wont call squat on the river. I guess a sloplay might induce a shove if they hit their draw on the river. But It is a case of trying to balance winning small bets or big bets, most draws will miss river 80% or more, so 4 smaller bets typically add up to more than 1 big bet when they hit their draw, and if they call a smaller bet and then hit their draw you get both bets. so i think a bet is always best here

Overall, I think this is a spot where a bit smaller bet 1/3 pot keeps them in thinking I have Jx and the second T scared me and/or gave them better drawing odds. I just don’t like betting less than ½ pot as it looks so fishy. I just think when 2 players call a solid checkraise they have enough to call ½ pot on turn most of the time. Overall very frustrating I didn’t win more after 2 callers on the flop


mizpho folds
dedihindi folds
hockeyguy321 wins $28.15 USD from main pot


10/27
422.97 aj

Oops, I paid off and should have known better

***** Hand History for Game 28834922422 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, October 27, 06:40:33 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28834922) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: maddog1827 ( $24.81 USD )
Seat 2: DrDuca ( $5.00 USD )
Seat 3: breakburnblow ( $28.61 USD )
Seat 4: hockeyguy321 ( $24.62 USD )
Seat 5: DJF5380 ( $12.25 USD )
Seat 6: d0ink1980 ( $32.46 USD )
DrDuca posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
breakburnblow posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Jd As ] standard raise
hockeyguy321 raises [$1.00 USD]
DJF5380 folds
d0ink1980 folds
maddog1827 folds
DrDuca folds
breakburnblow calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 2h, 3c ]
breakburnblow checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$2.00 USD] standard cbet tptk on dry flop, but k or q bad no freebies

breakburnblow calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
breakburnblow checks
hockeyguy321 bets [$4.50 USD] standard cbet
breakburnblow raises [$12.05 USD]

21/17/1.0 preflop
1.6/1.8/2.0 post flop

hockeyguy321 calls [$7.55 USD] yikes, very dry board
in all honesty I wasn’t paying as close of attention as I should have been to opponent style, his call on flop limits his range quite a bit given he is pretty taggy
This is a pretty clear example of a hand where tptk has very little chance to be good
Opponent is not the type to float AK and bluff the turn or represent JT, given opponent style he has JT or better, but I call like a stubborn donkey. I can probably get off just tptk to a river shove, but not when the A hits

This is the kind of hand that makes for good, although painful, learning as it will stick in your head for a very long time, the key is to make sure you analyze situation and opponent to put the full picture together. I should have been out on turn w/ a smallish loss instead on getting stacked off. Notice I can fold turn 4 times before I piss away a full stack. The good thing about small mistakes is that they take awhile to add up against you. If you call just 2 times and stack off it takes a long time to get that back, you fold a lot of marginal hands before it cost you 2 stacks

** Dealing River ** [ Ac ] now I am screwed as I cant get away from top 2 pair given pot odds

breakburnblow raises [$13.56 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$9.57 USD]
breakburnblow shows [3h, 3s ]
hockeyguy321 shows [Jd, As ]
breakburnblow wins $3.99 USD
breakburnblow wins $46.88 USD from main pot



10/30
405.997
411.87


10/31 T5s kto 88 ajs
416.54
431.67

***** Hand History for Game 28929445103 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 31, 09:27:14 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28929445) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: hockeyguy321 ( $31.33 USD )
Seat 2: SgtPeppa ( $8.80 USD )
Seat 3: CoolZer0 ( $24.90 USD )
Seat 4: djfirax ( $55.41 USD )
Seat 5: 1982scott ( $4.00 USD )
Seat 6: MEGADETHKICKSASS ( $21.31 USD )
djfirax posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
1982scott posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Jh Ah ]
MEGADETHKICKSASS calls [$0.25 USD]
hockeyguy321 raises [$1.30 USD]
SgtPeppa folds
CoolZer0 folds
djfirax folds
1982scott folds
MEGADETHKICKSASS calls [$1.05 USD]
58/5/0 preflop
1.2/1.0/inf postflop

** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 6c, 5c ]
MEGADETHKICKSASS checks
hockeyguy321 checks

I like the check here given I just saw the donk cold call w 52s
Flop hits too much of his range and I only have overs no draw, if i had a draw i would cbet
If he has nothing he will not likely bet, if I am best I can likely get to Showdown cheap

** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
MEGADETHKICKSASS bets [$2.00 USD]
hockeyguy321 folds

donk is passive, could he be bluffing , very possible, but if he has something I then have
to face river bet, this hand falls into don’t pay off the donkey category
i only have 5 bb invested, no point in making it 13bb or more
MEGADETHKICKSASS wins $4.81 USD from main pot



Avoiding bad spots preflop



***** Hand History for Game 28929445101 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 31, 09:25:49 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28929445) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: hockeyguy321 ( $31.33 USD )
Seat 2: SgtPeppa ( $9.15 USD )
Seat 3: CoolZer0 ( $24.90 USD )
Seat 4: djfirax ( $56.23 USD )
Seat 5: 1982scott ( $4.25 USD )
Seat 6: MEGADETHKICKSASS ( $19.63 USD )
SgtPeppa posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
CoolZer0 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 8c 8s ]
djfirax folds
1982scott calls [$0.25 USD]
MEGADETHKICKSASS raises [$1.25 USD]
hockeyguy321 folds
pretty easy fold here vs his range 4% pfr and pot odds
cold call 1.25 vs 18 dollar stack only gives me 14/1 implied odds, I like at least 20/1 to set mine. There is virtually no chance I am best, any A or K flop I will have to fold
still more players to act behind me, opponent is a donk I will get better
chance

SgtPeppa folds
CoolZer0 folds
1982scott folds
MEGADETHKICKSASS shows [Kc, Ah ], yeppers no surprise vs his range
MEGADETHKICKSASS wins $1.85 USD from main pot


Protecting best hand

***** Hand History for Game 2892923973 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 31, 09:17:24 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28929239) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: hockeyguy321 ( $29.66 USD )
Seat 2: krilla ( $12.61 USD )
Seat 3: djfirax ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 4: Grandbufet ( $19.57 USD )
Seat 5: BlufferCindy ( $21.80 USD )
Seat 6: CoolZer0 ( $34.35 USD )
hockeyguy321 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
krilla posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ 5c Tc ]
Grandbufet calls [$0.25 USD]
BlufferCindy calls [$0.25 USD]
CoolZer0 calls [$0.25 USD]
hockeyguy321 calls [$0.15 USD]
krilla checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 6d, 2h ]
hockeyguy321 checks too weak to lead 4 way
krilla checks
Grandbufet checks
BlufferCindy checks
CoolZer0 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
hockeyguy321 bets [$1.25 USD]
now it is time to protect top pair and virtually certain best pair when under card hits turn
2 ½ big blinds for me, maybe more if i get a donk chaser that is huge underdog to my top pr
krilla folds
Grandbufet folds
BlufferCindy folds
CoolZer0 folds
hockeyguy321 wins $2.44 USD from main pot

selective 3 betting

***** Hand History for Game 2892923980 ***** (Merge)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 31, 09:22:09 ET 2010
Table Tijuana (28929239) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: hockeyguy321 ( $30.96 USD )
Seat 2: krilla ( $12.01 USD )
Seat 3: djfirax ( $24.90 USD )
Seat 4: Grandbufet ( $24.85 USD )
Seat 5: BlufferCindy ( $22.50 USD )
Seat 6: CoolZer0 ( $34.10 USD )
krilla posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
djfirax posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hockeyguy321 [ Ks Tc ]
Grandbufet folds
BlufferCindy folds
CoolZer0 raises [$0.70 USD]
20/15/6.3 preflop
He folds 75% to 3 bet
His pfr 0/8/24/46 by position
hockeyguy321 raises [$2.85 USD] why 3 bet this guy w/ an easily dominated hand

i have position
he understands position to some degree looking at his pfr by position
so his range is not 15% pfr which has me in not great shape,
more like 24% which kt ok against especially in position, but a lot of his range
cant play vs a 3 bet oop, he folds ¾ to 3 bet, meaning he hates playing vs 3 bet oop
i don’t really want to play multiway w/ KT off and let a raggy Ace KJ or KQ play along

all this adds up to 3 bet even though he looks like a taggy opponent and my hand is mediocre

krilla folds
djfirax folds
CoolZer0 folds
hockeyguy321 wins $3.90 USD from main pot


gl all HG

overall results to date
Second round of 25NL
Started at $255.10 (sept. 23)
8766 hands
+$ 176.57
8 bb/100 win rate
End $431.67 today



First round of 25NL
Started $250.33
11511 hands
-$52
WR= -6 bb/100 hands
3 tables mostly
Ended at $198.62
About 42 hours played at 25 nl so far



Final Results at 10 NL
Started $100
6715 hands played at 10NL
Ended $250.33
$150.33 profit- this counts rake back for simplicity as well as $3.92 from .02/.04 and $2.05 at an accidental 0.10/0.25 game

Another visit to get back to $250 bankroll
1052 hands at 10 nl
+$ 46.52 + rakeback $10.89
44 bb/100 hands
To get back to $250 bankroll to go to 25 nl

Overall 10 nl includes 1st and second visit to 10nl
6867 hands
$207 total profit
30bb/100 hands at 10 nl (includes about $40 in rakeback)
24bb/100 hands at 10 nl not counting rakeback