Overpair vs flopped sets

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Overpair vs flopped sets

Postby janb » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:27 pm

Hi guys,

I'm a new member and want to say that I'm verry impressed by your videos. But I have to be honest it's the first time that I studied it seriously.

Let's say something short about myself. I'm playing poker now for 3 years and have made a little bankroll online. I can play the 100NL relaxed. But's hard to stay at the 100NL because I know the 200NL is not really difficult to play. But unfortunately I lost 5 buyins the last two days because of the lucky draws against me so I have to go back to the 100NL :( BTW it's not a complaint; I know it's a part of the game.

Live I do it almost very well which means it never cost me money in the long term.

I'm a very "serious" player. This means that I believe in the game and that I want to get a nice income from it. The other side of my story is that in the past I didn't realy work for the game. I didn't spend hours at analyzing, playing, reading etc. I really didn't go for it.

Now in 2009 I decided to go for it and to work for it. My goal now is a minimum of 15K hands per month, doing a lot of studie and a lot more.
I know it will be hard but I even know that if I want to be a "pro" I have to bring some sacrifices. So I want to give it a try.

One of my problems is the following.
extra info: I always play with a full stack.

I raise with AA KK QQ to $8 in a 1/2NL game regardless of my position (first raiser/no limpers in front of me)
I'm called by 2 player with a dry board for example Jh7d4c
My CB (say the pot is 27$) is around 20$
next player folds
the second caller make a reraise to $60/$70 or goes sometimes all in.

If the second caller is short stacked for example his all in is 35/40$ it's an easy call.
But when he is also full stacked I have a real problem (have I????)

Most of the times I call and yeah most of the times they show me a flopped set.

How can I avoid this?

The same is when I raise with JJ TT 99 and a flop 3c5d8c; It happens so much that I'm in an all in situation and that my opponent shows an higher pair than me (AA KK QQ).
the real situation is often that I'm the first raiser preflop; A (mini)raise from my opponent; I call to see the flop. on a dry board as mentioned above I throw out a decent CB and get reraised all in which I often call. (and loose);

If in the above situation I'm not the first raiser I always 3bet with AA KK QQ JJ and it depends on the player what I do with my tens, nines and lower. But then there is always the question what to do if your opponent reraises your 3bet. With AA it's very easy, Kings? I think you can't throw them away. Can you?? Queens; here my problem starts again.

Well guys my first (long) post but hopefully an interesting one.
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Re: Overpair vs flopped sets

Postby killer_be_99 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:42 pm

janb wrote:Hi guys,

One of my problems is the following.
extra info: I always play with a full stack.

I raise with AA KK QQ to $8 in a 1/2NL game regardless of my position (first raiser/no limpers in front of me)
I'm called by 2 player with a dry board for example Jh7d4c
My CB (say the pot is 27$) is around 20$
next player folds
the second caller make a reraise to $60/$70 or goes sometimes all in.

If the second caller is short stacked for example his all in is 35/40$ it's an easy call.
But when he is also full stacked I have a real problem (have I????)

Most of the times I call and yeah most of the times they show me a flopped set.

How can I avoid this?
Well guys my first (long) post but hopefully an interesting one.



Well when playing live (and online) it is essential to raise with these hands no matter what position you are in. You also want to continuation bet no matter what position you are in on this type of a board. ie. Force pairs to draw to 2 pairs or make pocket pairs to draw to sets. Get value on hands like AJ. Also get posible 56 to pay for a straight.

Most players playing 1/2 nl are weak players. That being said these type of players usually reraise preflop with hands that are in your range. ie. JJ or better preflop. usually for 100 bb or better all the money goes in prefop. With an overpair to the board on the flop you generally want to be agressive to chace draws off of a potential made hand. You should generally bet 2/3 of the pot after betting preflop.

The rest of the hand depends on your view of your opponent. IE. what type of a player is this person. This makes all the world in live poker.
Remember this is on a rainbow board.

If your opponent is Tight Agro - he would generally raise or fold. Thus - if this guy calls you can peg this guy on a drwining hand o a hand like qJ or kJ etc. If this type of player re-reaises then he may have something like AJ or a set. You want to respect a reraise from this player and really put him on a hand.

If you opponent is Tight Passive - If you get called on the flop by your player here you want to put the player on top pair or better. bet the turn but think about checking the river in this spot. If you get reraised on the flop. You might want to check call down against a player like this.

If your opponent is Lose agro - Get all your money in here. If a maniac has a set on this board you should lose your money. Cause he will repop you with AJ or even KJ or 10J on this board. if he doesnt fold to a reraise then you can check call in deep stack situation to get him to bet for you.

Finally Lose Passive. - Bet every single streak. This is the donkey at the table. GET VALUE!

Cheers,

Errol
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