i read a post in a ptr forum the other day about using pfr by position in your hud

ie
utg pfr
utg + 1 pfr
utg + 2 pfr/ aka cutoff
utg + 3 pfr/aka button

he thought it took up too much space and you got basically the same info from
overall vpip/pfr stats. This might be true at his stakes, but not at micros. There are so many players learning and trying to play taggy, but most are not good at it so not all 20/15 tags are the same, in fact they are not even close. So you must know what kind of 20/15 you are playing against.

For instance if you were playing me 21/16/6

14% utg pfr
18% utg + 1 pfr
25% utg + 2 pfr/ aka cutoff
38% utg + 3 pfr/aka button

you should be 3 betting light vs a lot of my later position raises and be more concerned about my ep pfr
but if you are playing vs a level 1 thinking "faux" tag ie what are my cards. You will see something like this 20/16/2

18% utg pfr
18% utg + 1 pfr
21% utg + 2 pfr/ aka cutoff
22% utg + 3 pfr/aka button

in which case the position of his pfr means virtually nothing, so you should not be excited to 3 bet him light at all based on his position, but if he has a very high fold to 3 bet- FYI it is very likely he does since he really doesnt understand how to play and will give you credit for a big hand since he will only 3 bet QQ+ you can 3 bet him light regardless of his position. He will typically be a fold or 4 bet guy

You will also see some "ultra" tag with stats like this 20/15/5

6% utg pfr
10% utg + 1 pfr
21% utg + 2 pfr/ aka cutoff
40% utg + 3 pfr/aka button

this tag is playing almost face up, so i want to call any ep pfr w/ pairs looking to set mine since his range is so heavy in big pairs/big aces that he is easy pckings to stack postflop, he is also very likely to check big aces that wiff and fold to a bet. He might be a high 3 bet caller in late position thinking you might be 3 betting light if he has seen you 3 bet a lot, but he will fold to most Cbets in 3 bet pots unless he hit flop hard

The other helpful stats is call 3 bet % and fold to cbet in 3 bet pot so you know what to expect when you 3 bet and how to proceed post flop. A lot of these "tags' will call 3 bet and then fold any flop they dont hit hard

i was a "faux" tag when i joined OP, but Atta's videos got me to understand how to use position to my advantage and how to read opponents by how they use/misuse position. So if you dont have pfr by position in your hud, try it, you will like it, same deal w/ aggression by street which i discussed a while back in a video on using stats in the micros.


hope this helps


hg

This post needs some love, hockeyguy's described a super important aspect to player-types and how stats can be deceiving. It's easy to assume that all 20/16 TAGs are alike, but they aren't at all. You need to delve deeper into the stats to figure out each opponent.

This is really important I think, I use the PFR by pos alot. I also use the 3bet by pos on my better opponents. I sometimes 4bet-light when a better opponent with a 3bet% on the button of higher than 10% 3bet me.

Sometimes I have made a 4bet from the BB if there was a TAG player in MP (With a pfr of 25+ in that pos and with a higher foldto3bet of 75%+) making a raise and then a better TAG player on the BTN who have a 3bet on that pos higher than 10%. It hasnt happend alot but sometimes. I do this type of move more often if I havent been so aggressive at the table for a while. I guess this play will be more common on higher stakes. Often both did fold. If they call Im first to act, thats a hard spot. But if they are 2 better players they will think I must have a really strong hand to do that type of move from the BB preflop.

Its also good to watch those pos-stats to quickly get info if an opponent is positional aware.

/johanW

A light cold-4bet against a loose late position opener and a loose 3bettor is very common at higher stakes It's great to do it with hands like QJ/KJ/KQ/Ax as a bluff due to card removal properties and to help with randomizing when to do it.